Yamaha Montage Review

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Re: Yamaha Montage Review

Unread postby Derek » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:43 am

Gordon Reid has reviewed the Montage in this month's Sound On Sand, and his main pro point is:

It looks and sounds gorgeous.


Which is high praise, from a reviewer and synth aficionado, who is quite prepared to tell it how it is. His main con is

The Montage 6 and Montage have slightly narrower Keybeds than standard.


As Gordon points out, that could be a potential issue if you are playing several boards on stage and like your keys lined up and "trained pianists are at risk of playing ninths instead of octaves". That is something I will need to look closely at, as I want my EX5 replacement to complement my Kronos and I don't want playing issues as a result of different key sizes!

And his final con is:

It's not cheap - and neither should it be - but it may be a bit too pricey.


Like myself, Gordon makes the "half an FS1r" comment on FM-X, and in his summing up he draws the point that the Kronos is likely to be the direct competition, and on a "features per pound basis" this is where the Montage runs into difficulties. Montage: AWM and FM-X; Kronos 9 sound engines (HD-1 and MOD-7 closest to Montage engines), KARMA , digital IO, sampling and full audio/MIDI sequencing package - and the Kronos is cheaper.

Gordon then makes the point that for some the sound generating capabilities (and difference in engine count) will be irrelevant to some, but it matters to me as when you have heard (for example) modelled EPs and organs, you will not want to play a sampled one, and we of course lament the languishing Yamaha AN, VL and FDSP technology.

Price is then mentioned several times in the wrapping up, along with the keybed size issue which prevents this excellent synth from getting an unreserved thumbs up.

So, interesting that the first pro review I have seen is echoing the general points we have been discussing.
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Re: Yamaha Montage Review

Unread postby EXer » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:04 pm

Derek wrote:
The Montage 6 and Montage have slightly narrower Keybeds than standard.


As Gordon points out, that could be a potential issue if you are playing several boards on stage and like your keys lined up and "trained pianists are at risk of playing ninths instead of octaves". That is something I will need to look closely at, as I want my EX5 replacement to complement my Kronos and I don't want playing issues as a result of different key sizes!


►Your EX5 has already narrow keys!

The EX5 has a Yamaha FS keybed. The octave is 4 mm shorter than on a standard piano (161 mm instead of 165 mm).

All Yamaha and Korg upper range synths have had that keybed until the Motif ES and Korg Oasys 76.
Since the Motif XS the upper range Yamaha synths have had a FSX keybed, which is basically a lead free version of the FS keybed.

Btw, I'm a pianist and I have *no* problem switching between the EX5 and a standard keyboard, and I'm pretty sure you don't have problems either when you switch between your EX5 and your Kronos!
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Re: Yamaha Montage Review

Unread postby Derek » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Well, you live and learn. I can strike that off as an issue then :)
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Re: Yamaha Montage Review

Unread postby Saul » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:40 pm

The Montage goes back tomorrow...for real this time. Courier booked and all that so, if anyone wants any info on something that I can check before I box it up please let me know.

On the subject of touch screens, Yamaha were not unfortunately doing touch screens before everyone else. Korg started the ball rolling with the 'Trinity' which came out in 1995 and then of course there was the Triton which dominated the market from 1999 onwards. So yeah Yamaha were doing touch screens back in 2004 but that is still 9 years after Korg and even then it was another 12 years before they got around to putting one on their flagship synth range. Something with most of us never could figure out.

and DrF..as you know, threads on this forum hardly ever stay "on-topic" and speaking for myself I am extremely glad that is the case :) So thanks for bringing the Electone into this thread. It's an amazing instrument and although I know it's also massively expensive I still think Yamaha missed a trick by not marketing it in Europe.


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